I do believe in basic science. I believe in participating in space. I believe in analysis of new sources of energy. I believe in laboratories, looking at ways to conduct electricity with -- with cold fusion, if we can come up with it. It was the University of Utah that solved that. We somehow can’t figure out how to duplicate it.
Of course, that reported "success" at the University of Utah was debunked nearly a quarter-of-a-century ago.
It was...in all the papers, it was a big big big cause celebre. It was also probably the biggest story of the year in Utah (maybe it wasn't, I didn't live there, but I bet it was top-3).