Thursday, May 29, 2008

No Ignorance too vile to reveal

First of all, this is what the internet-term P3WNED was invented for.

Second of all, the degree to which these dime-store (er, "Dollar Store) gumshoes will go to demonstrate their extreme imbecility is, indeed, something to behold. Just ask the Frost family.

This is truly awe inspiring in its douchiness (commenter, though the poster is the ultimate douche as well):

Still, Mr. Payne may have been present at the liberation of Ohrdruf. Which, it should be remembered, was a work camp — and not a death camp like Auschwitz or Treblinka.

So one wonders why he was so terribly traumatized.


So after denying this guy even exists, they add he was a pussy too. Way to honor a veteran you pathetic fucking morons.

Let us talk about Ohrdruf for a moment:

1. It was indeed part of the Buchenwald concentration camp, Buchenwald was the hub of a bunch of also hell-on-earth satellite camps, like Ohrdruf. This was true of many of the major death camps. Auschwitz for example had satellite nightmares similar to Buchenwald. Amongst it's most infamous was Monowitz. It is not inaccurate to call Ohrdruf, Buchenwald.

2. Saying Ohrdruf was just a "work camp" and not a "death camp" like Auschwitz is both incredibly stupid and incredibly insulting.

Ohrdruf had some pretty famous visitors a little over a week after it was liberated -- the visitors came on a pretty infamous day [FDR died the same day] during the Second World War and it created quite an impression:

When the soldiers of the 4th Armored Division entered the camp, they discovered piles of bodies, some covered with lime, and others partially incinerated on pyres. The ghastly nature of their discovery led General Dwight D. Eisenhower, Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe, to visit the camp on April 12, with Generals George S. Patton and Omar Bradley. After his visit, Eisenhower cabled General George C. Marshall, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington, describing his trip to Ohrdruf:


. . .the most interesting--although horrible--sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'


Seeing the Nazi crimes committed at Ohrdruf made a powerful impact on Eisenhower, and he wanted the world to know what happened in the concentration camps. On April 19, 1945, he again cabled Marshall with a request to bring members of Congress and journalists to the newly liberated camps so that they could bring the horrible truth about Nazi atrocities to the American public.

That same day, Marshall received permission from the Secretary of War, Henry Lewis Stimson, and President Harry S. Truman for these delegations to visit the liberated camps.

Ohrdruf made a powerful impression on General George S. Patton as well. He described it as "one of the most appalling sights that I have ever seen." He recounted in his diary that

In a shed . . . was a pile of about 40 completely naked human bodies in the last stages of emaciation. These bodies were lightly sprinkled with lime, not for the purposes of destroying them, but for the purpose of removing the stench. When the shed was full--I presume its capacity to be about 200, the bodies were taken to a pit a mile from the camp where they were buried. The inmates claimed that 3,000 men, who had been either shot in the head or who had died of starvation, had been so buried since the 1st of January. When we began to approach with our troops, the Germans thought it expedient to remove the evidence of their crime. Therefore, they had some of the slaves exhume the bodies and place them on a mammoth griddle composed of 60-centimeter railway tracks laid on brick foundations. They poured pitch on the bodies and then built a fire of pinewood and coal under them. They were not very successful in their operations because there was a pile of human bones, skulls, charred torsos on or under the griddle which must have accounted for many hundreds.



Just a workcamp, Eisenhower, Bradley & Patton at Ohrdruf.

Just a workcamp, corpses stacked at Ohrdruf just after liberation.

And what would Eisenhower think of these new, modern goons diminishing the nightmare of the victims of Ohrdruf and those who make light of it as an example of Nazi crimes after it was liberated by men like Barack Obama's great uncle Charlie Payne? I think we can guess pretty accurately:

Colonel Charles Codman, an aide to General Patton, wrote to his wife about an incident that happened that day. A young soldier had accidentally bumped into a former Nazi guard at the camp and had laughed nervously. "General Eisenhower fixed him with a cold eye," Codman wrote "and when he spoke, each word was like the drop off an icicle. 'Still having trouble hating them?' he said." General Eisenhower had no trouble hating the Germans, as he would demonstrate when he set up a POW camp in Gotha a few weeks later.

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