You kids just continue gettin' shot at

The National Review Editorial Board's opinion (stop snickering at the thought of National Review having an editorial board, this is a serious post!):

Throughout the Iraq war, NR has tried to temper the rival fatalisms of the Iraq optimists and pessimists. Victory in Iraq has never been inevitable or impossible. The outcome depends, as is always the case, on the choices made by the players, including ourselves. Even if our influence in Iraq is waning, our commitment — and the specific forms it takes — still matters very much. Defeatism will be self-fulfilling.

Alright, snicker a little.

If we don't clap louder what will our troops, who must be almost unanimous in supporting their mission think?

Oops, that ship has apparently sailed:

A new poll, cited by Nick Kristof and to be released today shows that U.S. soldiers overwhelmingly want out of Iraq -- and soon.

The poll is the first of U.S. troops currently serving in Iraq, according to John Zogby, the pollster. Conducted by Zogby International and LeMoyne College, it asked 944 service members, "How long should U.S. troops stay in Iraq?"

Only 23 percent backed Mr. Bush's position that they should stay as long as necessary. In contrast, 72 percent said that U.S. troops should be pulled out within one year. Of those, 29 percent said they should withdraw "immediately."

Maybe it's time for Jonah, Rich, Byron, and hell let's throw in Peter Beinart to get over there pronto and get in the front lines so they can show those American Troops Hatin' American Troops what patriotism is all about!