We cannot know who won until the Bloviators tell us what to think

This AP article basically says that the winner of the debate will be determined by those who do not watch.

Three post-debate polls suggested voters were impressed by Kerry, with most of those surveyed saying he did better than Bush. Such instant polls reflect the views of debate watchers and not the public at large. Initial reactions to a debate can change after a few days have passed

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Yes, after Drudgie-poo and Rush harp incessently on some non-issue -- Kerry is tooooooo tall...then we will know what to think.

I saw Rudy Guiliani on the daily show, and other than being full of bullshit his spin was Kerry not crediting our allies.

Making fun of traditional allies is the GOP's job after all.