David Ignatius on PBS with Charlie Rose. Defending the use of torture by the administration, he said that "we would not have used torture if it had not been effective" and saying without any proof that the use of torture helped to prevent further attacks on the US.
Oh yes, "effective" -- no proof, just your "buddies" would not have done something if it wasn't effective. Morality doesn't matter, EFFECTIVENESS does.
You know what else was "effective"?
Babi Yar you immoral fuck!