Rising Hegemon
Child-rape and abuse require smoking guns (so to speak) plus a couple of decades more of less.
But myths about Sky-Jesus, no problem.
Benedict said the Shroud [of Turin] represented "that unique and unrepeatable moment in the history of humanity and the universe" between what Christians believe was Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. He also said it "totally corresponds to what the Gospels tell of Jesus."
Meanwhile, in reality:
Carbon dating tests by laboratories in Oxford, Zurich and Tucson, Arizona in 1988 caused a sensation by dating it from between 1260 and 1390.
Whoops.
(photo AP)
8 comments:
I'm not a believer (of religion or shroud), but I have seen more recently that those carbon dating tests were likely thrown off by the fact that the thing was in a fire and significantly singed during that period. I think, but won't look it up, that they now think it is earlier, but still not early enough.
Still hate the evil Papa though, seems to me if his god were real it would have turned him to a large chunk of charcoal suitable for carbon testing by now.
But I guess there's a lot of horrifying things done in the name of the church that their god has not seen fit to comment upon.
Oh, well, the Catholic church has never been really keen on that science stuff, if one goes by how long it took them to admit that they might have overreacted a tad bit on that Galileo business, even though there are science enthusiasts scattered here and there in the Vatican today (I suspect that the Vatican's official astronomer isn't excited to talk about old business).
Nevertheless, Ratzo is likely basing this on assertions made by the Vatican's Shroud scientist who claimed in 2009 an accumulation of new evidence. There are some in the scientific community who are now claiming that the samples tested by carbon-14 dating came from repaired areas of the shroud, or were contaminated by bacteria, or that the statistical methods used to calculate the age of the fibers from the raw data were improper (even though three different university research labs working with several different samples came up with closely correlating estimates in 1988).
The Vatican's doing a wonderful job of using scientific techniques to muddy the factual waters, it seems. Looks as if they've taken a page or two from the intelligent design crowd's playbook.
Look, just forget the satanic carbon dating stuff altogether. The pope is infallable, right? If he says the Shroud was wrapped around Jesus, then it was. Take that, evil science guys.
The most ridiculous thing about the shroud is the "jesus" imprint, the image of which is impossible if it were truly wrapped around a human form.
a lot of people don't believe without that visible proof that god said he wasn't gonna give us.
Silly attaturk. Carbon dating only counts when it proves there totally WAS TOO an ark. And they totally found it on a mountain top in Turkey. Otherwise, carbon dating is a hoax. Not to mention, the catholic church absolutely forbids dating carbon. That might lead to carbon marriage, or at least man-on-carbon sex.
I own the Socks of Turin myself. I know they are the real deal
But the pope is infallible!
Or so I've heard. Carbon dating is not.
I have never been dated by a Carbon nor bought a shroud or socks from Turin. As one who speaks from below the stage:
Vox
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