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Hitler recruited around him homosexuals to make up his Stormtroopers, they were his enforcers, they were his thugs. And Hitler discovered that he could not get straight soldiers to be savage and brutal and vicious enough to carry out his orders
Yeah, asshole, when the Einsatzgruppen got done at Babi Yar they went off to sing Rogers & Hart.
Jesus, y'know why Hitler was so easily able to pass off killing Ernst Rohm?
In a speech on July 13, Hitler alluded to Röhm's homosexuality and explained the purge as chiefly defence against treason.
Hitler and the Nazis, they loved gay people so much they gave 'em their own uniforms!
80 comments:
Well, the Nazis certainly had a sort of homoerotic thing going for `em, given the leather and boots and magnificent Aryan men thing they had going on, but, still, there were several hundred thousand homosexuals that were sent to the camps, which pretty much invalidates Bryan Fischer's argument... well, except for that thrill he gets when Shrub's name is mentioned....
Next thing you know, we'll be told how much Hitler relied on help from his Jewish friends.
As far as This post has been removed by a blog administrator goes, that must have been some real offensive stuff there given how tolerant our bloggy overlords are of, shall we say, exercising our first amendment rights. I know I've said a few things that probably should have been zapped based on common standards of human decency.
Jesus fucking Christ. I'll say.
twisting the swastika into pink triangles.
did o/a go to far? or a new troll?
Pansypoo,
Given past history it's far more probable that a person from the far left of the political spectrum wrote something either pro-nazi or anti-Semitic, and thus the offensive comment was removed by the blog administrator. Centrists and other reasonable people like me don't (often) write offensive things on websites.
But... ifn ur really curious you could trace the origin of the comment through the sitemeter link at the bottom of this web page.
To one as far to the right as OnA, everyone else looks 'left'. To wit:
"Barack Obama is at core a Marxist, so if closing Gitmo is harmful to America that is the route he will probably take. GK is likey correct that it will take a year or more, though. After all, another characteristic of Marxism is its slow and inefficient movement...Posted by: Olives and Arrows | February 25, 2009 at 01:05 PM"
http://www.singularity2050.com/2009/02/guantanamo-meets-geneva-convention-rules.html
Oh yea...and here's a classic from the same page:
"Marxism and naivety aren't the same thing. Committed marxists like Obama are at their core evil and destructive towards human freedom, they should not be underestimated.
Posted by: Olives and Arrows | March 31, 2009 at 08:22 AM "
Jeebus, OnA. If your 'friends' consider you 'left of center' I fear where they are on the right.
University of Bremen historian Lothar Machtan wrote an excellent book on this subject, "The Hidden Hitler".
I'm not anti-gay, and I don't dispute the historical fact that the Nazis imprisoned homosexuals in concentration camps, but there is, in fact, valid historical evidence to support the assertion that Hitler was a closet gay.
Hitler might have been gay? Whatever. The fact is, whatever Hitler's orientation, under his authority the Nazi's rounded up gays and killed them.
if nazi's were gay, their best route was to hide it. and i think at least we can say hitler was unsatisfied.
The main gay Nazi faction was mostly liquidated in the 1934 Rohm purges.
Using the implicit threat of outing Hitler, Rohm made the mistake of trying to blackmail Hitler into giving his SA power over the German army, and the Prussian officer corps were not having any of it.
After that, any gay Nazis (a short list which included Ernst Hanfstangel and Rudolf Hess) had to be very, very discreet.
By the way, later in the war, it would become a crime punishable by death to repeat gossip that the Fuhrer was gay.
*yawn*
.....you're not presenting anything new here, Hedley.
It's very plain to see that Obama is at core a marxist, his history and those that groomed him are clear evidence. That fact has been presented on these pages many times over......as well as by Attaturk disputing others' opinions. This is clearly not anything close to an extreme viewpoint (as you've attempted to portray.)
btw.....hopefully you're learning something with yer reading over at GK's place.
Apparently we're boring OnA.
Centrists and other reasonable people like me don't (often) write offensive things on websites.
Reasonable? HAHHHAHAHH HAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHA AHAHHAHAHAHA AHHAA!!!!! Not offensive??? BWWAHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAH HHAHHAHAHA AHHHH AH!!! You are one of the most foul, offensive people I've ever come across. Even the devil can be polite; doesn't mean he's not a top-notch asshole.
"Obama is at core a marxist, (sic) his history and those that groomed him are clear evidence. That fact has been presented on these pages many times over..."
Through what lens is Obama 'clearly' a Marxist? And how does anyone differing from this interpretation prove it?
"This is clearly not anything close to an extreme viewpoint (as you've attempted to portray.)"
I beg to differ. The current administration is the most centrist since Bush I or Carter. Obama is playing footsie with the banksters and corporations and is constitutionally driven to build consensus legislation through compromise and due process. If that's Marxism, FDR would be Mao. His nominations (Kagan most of all) are clear attempts to straddle a theoretical political center, often to the detriment of a large progressive base that got him elected (How many millions of previously unrecognized Marxists voted Obama? Is this the hidden threat? Good thing you're safe in Canada!)
At last, OnA has calibrated itself of the political spectrum (and I'm not talking the socio-political spectrum of wedge issues like gay rights, abortion rights, etc.)
"..hopefully you're learning something with yer reading over at GK's place."
Yes. I'm learning that GK is nuts in the extreme. When you're as far to the right as someone like GK, everything looks 'left' and like some kind of Marxist fifth column conspiracy. GKs latest post on women in society demonstrates that he's an intemperate chauvinist as well. I give GK as much credibility as I'd give any other fatuous narcissistic pseudo-intellectual: zero.
GK's got good company in the person of OnA: two self-enamored fatuous right-wing cryptofascists. Like Lyndon LaRouche, GK seems to rely on pliant followers to bolster a carefully constructed, self-reinforcing, ideology. Without lapdogs like you, OnA, GK would be just another right-wing conspiracy theorist babbling along on the internet.
Oh, yea.
@DanF: OnA's splitting again. No surprises there.
@Mr. Hedley Bowes: Yeah ... I've noticed that he tends to duck-out when he starts to look irretrievably bad or is posed questions that he knows he can't spin (in an odd way, it's his only saving grace). I assume it's so he can pretend the verbal thrashing never happened.
Hedley, you're extremely gullible to think that Obama isn't/wasn't a marxist just because he couldn't make various policies/wishes come to fruition.
There have been many people throughout (some of them influential politicians) that have changed their political leanings when confronted by reality. Many marxists change ideologically later on in life. It's called growing up.
Among many ties Barack Obama was groomed and supported by marxists and their organizations. Just for starters the Chicago marxist left -- his mentors people Saul Alinsky, the Reverend Wright and of course Bill Ayers the domestic terrorist and writer of Prairie Fire (which is at base a marxist commie manifesto).
Hey!...But that's just for starters, Hedley!!
You said in another thread that you're "intellectually curious" so why don't you do a little reading on the Barack Obama of past and present? Or does that curiousity only extend to info that satisfies your sex-starved rejection by others?
An actual intellectual curiousity might give you some insight into how and when Obama began fucking over the extremist leftists from his past, people of your ilk and much worse.
hehehehe......
Dan. Dude. Get a grip.
The day that leftist freakazoids like you get the the intellectual best of me will be the day that I don't comment here or anywhere else on blogs, ever again.
Don't get me wrong, Dan. I'm (almost) sure that eventually I'll make an error of some sort that you morons will jubilantly hang your unkempt hats on.
blah bla bl b.
the rite is so near the far cliff, centrist is far left. take a reality pill.
What the hell are they putting in OnA's vitamins? Maybe it's the water. A neurochemical pathogen that renders one utterly self-delusional?
"The day that leftist freakazoids like you get the the intellectual best of me will be the day that I don't comment here or anywhere else on blogs, ever again."
Whatever. You've been had nearly every day you post here. So buy a clue. You won't be missed.
Thought this might come in handy (clip and post on refrigerator).
O & A Scorecard
Factor 1 Aggressive narcissism
1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Factor 2 Socially deviant lifestyle
1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsiveness
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavioral problems
10. Revocation of conditional release
Traits not correlated with either factor
1. Many short-term marital relationships
2. Criminal versatility
Each item is rated on a score from zero to two. The sum total determines the extent of a person's psychopathy (i.e., O&Aity).
....well, now.
Dr Jimmieraydruggie.
Wondering if this Doc is a colleague of Hedley's shrink, Dr Bob?
....hmmmm...
Dr. Bob and Dr. Jimmie !!!!!!
hehehehe,,,,,,,too fucking funny!....
What was that condition you have, again, Hedley? Some type of personality disorder IIRC?
....a DSM number something....??
....and reuptake inhibitors are the treatment?? (unlike the particular DSM number that Hedley told us about, the reuptake inhibitors were just way too comical to have forgotten about....)
according to wikipedia:
Robert Altemeyer, also known as Bob Altemeyer, or Dr. Bob by his students, is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Manitoba.
He has written extensively on authoritarianism and refined the theory into the concept (and measure) of Right Wing Authoritarianism. Altemeyer's work is extensively referenced in John W. Dean's 2006 book, Conservatives Without Conscience. At Dean's suggestion, he wrote an "everyperson" account of his findings, The Authoritarians, which is freely available online.[1]
His son, Rob Altemeyer, is an MLA in the Manitoba Legislature.
heh //...
Soooo.... aside from Hedley having been one of his patients, "Dr Bob" also appears to carry a sizable load of bigotry against conservatives.
It just ain't healthy, Hedley.
And that at least partially accounts for that nasty streak of yours, an emotional mixture of disorder that resulted in your having wished for my death. It appears that Dr Bob has fixed you up with more that just the reuptake inhibitors, he's also contributed to you having a very unhealthy dosage of bigotry.
OnA, at last you're doing some research!
First point: Altmeyer is not a 'clinical practitioner' but an academic researcher: a distinction that might be lost on you but is significant in context. It's a distinction that destroys your false assertion that Altemeyer has any patients at all.
Altemeyer's research is also peer reviewed, and as such would follow rigorous and consistent standards that screen for observer bias.
After over 30 years and extensive study, the sad news is that right wingers like you and GK typically fall into the 'authoritarian leader' or 'follower' category.
Maybe that's why you got it so bad for GK?
Regards the rest of your rambling, rabid post: I suggest in your research you look up 'projection'.
Then have a look in a mirror.
(hey, OnA. Thanks for correcting the institution: I thought he was at Alberta but indeed Manitoba. And I wonder: why does a 'nice classical liberal' like you get all flustered and shaken about Altemeyer's Authoritarian model and it's allegedly 'bigotry' toward conservatives? Hit a nerve?)
....one can only wonder what kind of hate-filled comments Hedley is removing after having second thoughts? Perhaps todays reuptake inhibitors are off kilter a little?
Mr. Hedley Bowes said...
This post has been removed by the author.
12:26 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++=
Altmeyer is not a 'clinical practitioner' but an academic researcher: a distinction that might be lost on you but is significant in context. It's a distinction that destroys your false assertion that Altemeyer has any patients at all.
Hedley.
I'm aware of the distinction and was joshin' you about your having been a patient of Dr Bigot.....errr I mean......a patient of Dr Bob.
I think that the specific personality disorder number that you've cited here was actually diagnosed by another professional and that somebody other than Dr Bigot prescribes your reuptake inhibitor regimen.
"...one can only wonder what kind of hate-filled comments Hedley is removing after having second thoughts?"
Wonder away. I found a syntax error in the original post and corrected it. 'On edit' as they say.
As noted previously by other's comment in a previous thread, you're using straw man arguments.
Labeling Altemeyer's work 'bigotry' betrays a certain imbalance in one's own views, don't you think OnA?
Another day, another rhetorical fallacy from OnA.
Wonder away. I found a syntax error in the original post and corrected it. 'On edit' as they say.
Very probably a lie by Hedley.
Usually people making those kind of blogging errors just re-write the comment with the corrected typo or grammar in a subsequent comment.
Hedley probably had another of his bizarre "episodes". Time to talk with his Doctor about increasing the pharmaceutical regimen. ..... hehehe ....the reuptake inhibitors...
Why would I lie about that, Straw Man?
You're really nuts, OnA. Get some help.
Why would I lie about that, Straw Man?
Possibly because you felt a small measure of shame for what you wrote.....or.... because you knew that I would keep using whatever you wrote as yet another example of your psychosis, quite similar to the example of your having wished for my death.
I dunno about the rest of you but given Hedley's history here I think I'm gonna go with the latter as more probable.....
Suit yourself. I'm going with jimmyraybob @8:54 PM
(and yes, the politeness troll is splitting again)
Suit yourself. I'm going with jimmyraybob @8:54 PM
Dr Jimmy?
Suit yourself. I'm going with jimmyraybob @8:54 PM
Hedley is obviously a huge fan of Dr Jimmy
and...
Dr Bob
.
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