Thursday, July 01, 2010

Finally, another crazy group to give FoxNews a run for its money!


You should see what they can do with a blackboard.

Al-Qaeda to launch online news site in English


Sanji al-Doocy's segments sponsored by Hooters will be awesome.

(pic from here)

25 comments:

Olives and Arrows said...

Speaking of Fox News and dominant ratings, here in Canada Montreal-based Quebecor has announced plans for Sun TV News, a new Canadian all-news TV network to launch in January 2011.

Heh/
Some real competition for the communist news arm CBC. It's highly probable that the new network will crush CBC's already poor ratings. It wonèt be long after launch that Sun TV News assumes the dominant position similar to Fox News in the US of A.


Canada is ill served by the incumbent specialty news channels — CBC News Network and CTV News Channel — and Canadians are tuning into American alternatives instead.

"This is not good for Canadian television, it's not good for Canadian democracy, and it's not good for Canada itself," Péladeau said.

Kory Teneycke, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director, will be vice-president in charge of developing the news operation.

'We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian'—Kory Teneycke
He came out swinging against Canada's existing news networks at the news conference, saying they are "narrow, complacent and politically correct."

"We're taking on smug, condescending, often irrelevant journalism. We're taking on political correctness," Teneycke said.

"We will not be a state broadcaster offering boring news by bureaucrats, for elites, and paid for by taxpayers. We will be unapologetically patriotic.

"We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian."

Teneycke rejected the label, "Fox News North," which has been applied to the new TV property because of its similarity in format to the right-wing U.S. network.

The network will offer "strong opinions and analysis" but will carry a range of points of view, he said.

Teneycke also dismissed criticisms that the network would polarize political debate in Canada, particularly CBC commentator Don Newman's recent column calling the network "the last thing this country needs."

It is "natural that our competitors should be worried," Teneycke said.


http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2010/06/15/quebecor-news-channel-suntv.html

Olives and Arrows said...

Speaking of Fox News and dominant ratings, here in Canada Montreal-based Quebecor has announced plans for Sun TV News, a new Canadian all-news TV network to launch in January 2011.

Heh/
Some real competition for the communist news arm CBC. It's highly probable that the new network will crush CBC's already poor ratings. It wonèt be long after launch that Sun TV News assumes the dominant position similar to Fox News in the US of A.


Canada is ill served by the incumbent specialty news channels — CBC News Network and CTV News Channel — and Canadians are tuning into American alternatives instead.

"This is not good for Canadian television, it's not good for Canadian democracy, and it's not good for Canada itself," Péladeau said.

Kory Teneycke, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director, will be vice-president in charge of developing the news operation.

'We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian'—Kory Teneycke
He came out swinging against Canada's existing news networks at the news conference, saying they are "narrow, complacent and politically correct."

"We're taking on smug, condescending, often irrelevant journalism. We're taking on political correctness," Teneycke said.

"We will not be a state broadcaster offering boring news by bureaucrats, for elites, and paid for by taxpayers. We will be unapologetically patriotic.

"We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian."

Teneycke rejected the label, "Fox News North," which has been applied to the new TV property because of its similarity in format to the right-wing U.S. network.

The network will offer "strong opinions and analysis" but will carry a range of points of view, he said.

Teneycke also dismissed criticisms that the network would polarize political debate in Canada, particularly CBC commentator Don Newman's recent column calling the network "the last thing this country needs."

It is "natural that our competitors should be worried," Teneycke said.


http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2010/06/15/quebecor-news-channel-suntv.html

Olives and Arrows said...

Speaking of Fox News and dominant ratings, here in Canada Montreal-based Quebecor has announced plans for Sun TV News, a new Canadian all-news TV network to launch in January 2011.

Heh/
Some real competition for the communist news arm CBC. It's highly probable that the new network will crush CBC's already poor ratings. It wonèt be long after launch that Sun TV News assumes the dominant position similar to Fox News in the US of A.


Canada is ill served by the incumbent specialty news channels — CBC News Network and CTV News Channel — and Canadians are tuning into American alternatives instead.

"This is not good for Canadian television, it's not good for Canadian democracy, and it's not good for Canada itself," Péladeau said.

Kory Teneycke, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director, will be vice-president in charge of developing the news operation.

'We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian'—Kory Teneycke
He came out swinging against Canada's existing news networks at the news conference, saying they are "narrow, complacent and politically correct."

"We're taking on smug, condescending, often irrelevant journalism. We're taking on political correctness," Teneycke said.

"We will not be a state broadcaster offering boring news by bureaucrats, for elites, and paid for by taxpayers. We will be unapologetically patriotic.

"We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian."

Teneycke rejected the label, "Fox News North," which has been applied to the new TV property because of its similarity in format to the right-wing U.S. network.

The network will offer "strong opinions and analysis" but will carry a range of points of view, he said.

Teneycke also dismissed criticisms that the network would polarize political debate in Canada, particularly CBC commentator Don Newman's recent column calling the network "the last thing this country needs."

It is "natural that our competitors should be worried," Teneycke said.


http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2010/06/15/quebecor-news-channel-suntv.html

Olives and Arrows said...

Speaking of Fox News and dominant ratings, here in Canada Montreal-based Quebecor has announced plans for Sun TV News, a new Canadian all-news TV network to launch in January 2011.

Heh/
Some real competition for the communist news arm CBC. It's highly probable that the new network will crush CBC's already poor ratings. It wonèt be long after launch that Sun TV News assumes the dominant position similar to Fox News in the US of A.


Canada is ill served by the incumbent specialty news channels — CBC News Network and CTV News Channel — and Canadians are tuning into American alternatives instead.

"This is not good for Canadian television, it's not good for Canadian democracy, and it's not good for Canada itself," Péladeau said.

Kory Teneycke, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's former communications director, will be vice-president in charge of developing the news operation.

'We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian'—Kory Teneycke
He came out swinging against Canada's existing news networks at the news conference, saying they are "narrow, complacent and politically correct."

"We're taking on smug, condescending, often irrelevant journalism. We're taking on political correctness," Teneycke said.

"We will not be a state broadcaster offering boring news by bureaucrats, for elites, and paid for by taxpayers. We will be unapologetically patriotic.

"We will offer the kind of raw debate that Canadians only find today in coffee shops and around the dinner table. Sun TV News will be controversially Canadian."

Teneycke rejected the label, "Fox News North," which has been applied to the new TV property because of its similarity in format to the right-wing U.S. network.

The network will offer "strong opinions and analysis" but will carry a range of points of view, he said.

Teneycke also dismissed criticisms that the network would polarize political debate in Canada, particularly CBC commentator Don Newman's recent column calling the network "the last thing this country needs."

It is "natural that our competitors should be worried," Teneycke said.


www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2010/06/15/quebecor-news-channel-suntv.html

Anonymous said...

I gave up after "the communist news arm CBC."

What a waste of electrons.

Raoul Paste said...

A little overcompensation, OnA?

Buddy, you are just one of the rubes. Go rent "Outfoxed", where former Fox staffers describe how the message is crafted daily to dupe the unwashed.

And for God sakes, wash up!

pansypoo said...

o/a-excessibe blah bla bl b.

what about al-dark haired not al doucy?

pansypoo said...

they will be dark + unbalanced.

Olives and Arrows said...

Raoul,

I fully realize that there is some right wing bias at Fox. But I also realize that Fox is the closest of all the major networks to a balanced or a centrist viewpoint. The other networks all lean decidely leftward, some moreso than the others. No wonder Fox is easily out-performing the other networks in the ratings, after all twice as many Americans call themselves "conservative" as do those calling themselves "liberal".

And your portrayal of conservatives as somehow less intelligent than liberals is just plain silly. Studies have found that, if anything, conservatives have tendancy toward a higher income and higher on average education degree than do liberals. Even CNN has had to admit to this rather inconvenient fact of politics. Inconvenient for CNN, that is.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

A similar problem exists in Canada where left wing bias is over-represented in television journalism.

DanF said...

As he is want to do, OnA conflates higher education and income with intelligence. The greatest predictor of wealth is how much money your parents make, not how smart you are. Education costs money. People without money tend to not go to college. Rich folk who can't get into colleges with rigorous entrance requirements pay their way into a private schools where they expect to be given gentleman C's.

Fox News ratings dominance totals 3.3 million viewers daily. Compare to NPR radio which has 4 million daily listeners. ABC, NBC, and CBS each average between 7 to 10 million viewers every day.

So no. So outside of cable news, Fox News isn't exactly a dominate They only reason they dominate cable news is because they're demographic is so bug-fucking insane that they need a steady supply of reinforcing bullshit less their world implode under the weight of external facts.

It should be noted that none of these news sources present a liberal point of view. Workers rights are never highlighted and unions are nearly always discussed in an unfavorable light. The military industrial complex is never to be touched. We can't discuss what we're doing to our food supply. Ever. Monsanto knows best so suck it. And when Corporations are rarely held to account and rarely investigated by the major news outlets unless they do something egregious. Socializing industries like oil and coal production for the benefit of all is not even on the table. Free-market is the ultimate wisdom.

Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

"I fully realize that there is some right wing bias at Fox. But I also realize that Fox is the closest of all the major networks to a balanced or a centrist viewpoint."

Bwaaaahahhhhhaaaah! Please stop with the jokes! I'm working in the law library and they do not look kindly to outbursts of laughter.

Raoul Paste said...

they need a steady supply of reinforcing bullshit less their world implode under the weight of external facts.

Well said.

Olives and Arrows said...

DanF does unintentionally make a
point with a small portion of one of the sentences he wrote.
(Disregard the basic grammatical error that makes it painfully obvious that he doesn't quite understand proper use of their vs they're....)

It's this:

.....they dominate cable news is because they're demographic is so....

Fox dominates ratings for some reasons that are demographic and demographically representative.

1. there are more people in America that are conservative than those that are liberal.

2. seven of the eight major networks lean toward the left.

3. Fox is the only network that presents news in a centrist or a conservative light.

=========
So there you have it. It only follows that Fox would be dominant over the other networks. It isn't because they're ummm I mean .... isn't because their talent on-air is somehow superior or more aesthetically pleasing. (even if one could make the shallow case that conservatives tend to be better looking in addition to being more intelligent ;)

More people as a potential audience and less broadcasters catering to the middle ground or to the right wing viewpoint results in more viewers for Fox News. hmmmm ....let's think about that..... Some easy mathematics, even for a clod like Dan.


.....the remainder of Dan's comment is mostly based in yet more of his jealousy and in his tiresome victim class politics. Aside from income and education levels having (what most people consider common sense) a correlation with intelligence, Republicans are consistently rated to have more "apparent intelligence" by interviewers for the National Election Studies.

pansypoo said...

assholes have a tendency to rise to the top. blah bla bl b

Anonymous said...

Olives once again mistakes his opinion for fact. No surprises here. Move along...

DanF said...

Oh dear fucking god ...

seven of the eight major networks lean toward the left.

Which represents, what, a combined viewer-ship of 35 million-ish daily. Fox has 3.3 million daily. So using your conservatives-are-fucking-smart analysis, 3.3 million > 35 million epso facto DOMINATION!

Aside from income and education levels having (what most people consider common sense) a correlation with intelligence

OnA either doesn't know very many people (rich or poor), or is incapable of recognizing intelligence, or both. Politics of victimization don't come into play. These are just the facts as demonstrated time and again.

When American National Election Studies talks about "apparent intelligence," they are not talking about the innate intelligence of the person (and you're a mendacious asshole for making it sound that way). They are referring to how much the interviewee knows about the current election. Contrary to your bullshit world view, poor people actually don't have a lot of fucking time on their hands. They are working like dogs to make ends meet and so no, they do not have the time to figure out the political stage.

Oh, and you're still an amoral fuck and should seek help.

DanF said...

And yes, I know it's ipso facto,it's called parody.

Olives and Arrows said...

Dan.

I strongly suspect that you're purposefully distorting the discussion in several areas.

First is that you avoid the cable News ratings which show that Fox News is absolutely slaughtering any one of the the other competitors. For instance here's a typical day:

" Ratings for June 30, 2010
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,387,000 viewers
CNN – 484,000 viewers
MSNBC – 458,000 viewers
CNBC – 190,000 viewers
HLN – 352,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,489,000 viewers
CNN – 771,000 viewers
MSNBC –870,000 viewers
CNBC – 179,000 viewers
HLN – 581,000 viewers "

Second is your distortion that I somehow try to assert that one party's supporters is more intelligent than the other. When I clearly did NOT make any such assertion. That's only in your fevered imagination.
I did provide various points that could lead one to thinking that conservatives might be more intelligent than liberals. I could just as easily have provided supposedly convincing evidence showing the inverse, that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives.

Here's my commentary from several posts above. Now read carefully, Dan.
Try to avoid comprehending what you want the words to say, rather, read what was actually written.
I'll highlight in bolding just to help you along.
Here goes:


"And your portrayal of conservatives as somehow less intelligent than liberals is just plain silly. Studies have found that, if anything, conservatives have tendancy toward a higher income and higher on average education degree than do liberals.

and here's another:

(even if one could make the shallow case that conservatives tend to be better looking in addition to being more intelligent ;)

Olives and Arrows said...

oops....
...forgot the bolding for the first bit. Wouldn't want poor Dan to miss out on my helping him with his reading comprehension problem:

"And your portrayal of conservatives as somehow less intelligent than liberals is just plain silly. Studies have found that, if anything, conservatives have tendancy toward a higher income and higher on average education degree than do liberals.

Oh, and Dan......
I could also help you with that rather large grammar problem of yours. These are the kinds of errors tend to be much worse than typos and misspelling, since it makes you appear less intelligent than you probably are. You do seem to have some "issues" with proper use of contractions, such as you're and they're.

Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

Poor pitiful OnA.

In addition to being a grammar and spelling hypocrite, he's just not a very good researcher. Seems like OnA has restricted his theory to cabl delivery of content, whereas most viewers are still in the broadcast world and younger viewers aren't either; they're on the internet.

(I'll save OnA the humiliation by omitting the bold emphasis)

http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2006/09/network-nightly-news-vs-cable.html

"According to MediaBistro.com, on Sept 20 the NBC Nightly News had 8.2 million viewers, and CBS and ABC each had 7.5 million viewers (for a total of 23.2 million). On the cable side the largest audience was for The O'Reilly Factor with 2 million (or 3.1 million if you include his rebroadcast) viewers."

"..cable news channels have 2.7 million prime time (7-11pm) viewers and 1.6 million daytime (6am-6pm) viewers. ...In comparison, the network nightly news shows have 27 million viewers that watch for 1/2 an hour each night..."

"Fox News has almost all of the highest rated shows as seen in this rating of all cable news shows in August, and only 11 shows have an audience of over 1 million a day. Interestingly, while Fox News has the largest audiences for their shows, CNN actually attracts more unique viewers each month. Fox News viewers tend to watch for longer amounts of times which explains how this is possible. Although Fox News dominates the news ratings, it is important to keep in mind they are only getting around 1-1.8% of all households watching TV."

What's really going on here? Focusing on highly filtered data to the exclusion of broader evidence to the contrary.

Sorry, OnA. Given your hypothesis that Fox is 'centrist' and all other networks skew to the left, "they are only getting around 1-1.8% of all households watching TV."

You lose. Next!

Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

Next: OnA examines it's navel and concludes the Universe is made of lint and scurf.

Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

Punctuation errors (its; it's) notwithstanding.

Olives and Arrows said...

Holy crap !

Hedley is so re-uptaked that he doesn't even bother reading the material he copies n pastes in here.

....for example in his 9:00pm "comment":

Interestingly, while Fox News has the largest audiences for their shows, CNN actually attracts more unique viewers each month.

Too frickin' funny! Hedley posts without noticing that he bolstered my precise point from earlier!

And what did I write?
......oh yeah, here it is:

" First is that you avoid the cable News ratings which show that Fox News is absolutely slaughtering any one of the the other competitors. "

Olives and Arrows said...

hmmm.....

"re-uptaked"

Doesn't sound like proper grammar.

...perhaps it should be re-uptaken?

Or is it re-uptook?

Hedley?

What does Dr Bob call it when your medication level is way out of whack?

Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

Keep going, OnA. You're solidly in the 1 to 1.8% of the dimwit cohort.